I'm split between the hydrogen atom eigenstates and the eigenstates of crystalline solids. Wouldn't studying the eigenstates of the hydrogen atom cover angular momentum?
A tough choice. I have the same expectation as Justin, assuming that studying the hydrogen atom will involve angular momentum (and possibly spin?). If this is true than I vote for hydrogen.
do other people also find it really interesting to talk about measurement? i'd like that to continue being part of what we discuss, whichever topic we pick. i think hydro atom and crystalline states would both get into it a little.
I'm also with Justin on this one - sort of split between the crystal and the H atom. I think the crystal lends itself to more complex problems more easily...I'm thinking of many-electron systems...but H is no trivial matter either.
As far as the measurement, yeah, I'd like to see some methods of obtaining this stuff experimentally.
I'm curious about the time dependent Hamiltonian opperator and pertibation theory, but this might be covered in 139B. We should get to the three dimentional case sometime this quarter.
Hydrogen atom! N-dimensional quanta!
ReplyDeleteI'm split between the hydrogen atom eigenstates and the eigenstates of crystalline solids. Wouldn't studying the eigenstates of the hydrogen atom cover angular momentum?
ReplyDeleteA tough choice. I have the same expectation as Justin, assuming that studying the hydrogen atom will involve angular momentum (and possibly spin?). If this is true than I vote for hydrogen.
ReplyDeletedo other people also find it really interesting to talk about measurement? i'd like that to continue being part of what we discuss, whichever topic we pick. i think hydro atom and crystalline states would both get into it a little.
ReplyDeleteI'm also with Justin on this one - sort of split between the crystal and the H atom. I think the crystal lends itself to more complex problems more easily...I'm thinking of many-electron systems...but H is no trivial matter either.
ReplyDeleteAs far as the measurement, yeah, I'd like to see some methods of obtaining this stuff experimentally.
Of course, I can't use retrospect to make a sound judgement on what we should cover...
ReplyDeletedisregarding that important point, I think we should study crystal states, and the quantum eigenstates of electrons in crystalline solids.
If this were more practical in the long run, and more useful for those of us in or heading towards experimental labs, then why not?
On the other hand, I'm not too keen on trying to figure out how to measure these things - I'd rather take the data other people have developed.
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ReplyDeletewasnt our original class plan to go into the 3-d H atom after all this 1-d stuff?
ReplyDeleteI say H atom
Hi Jody!
ReplyDeleteAlso, Wilson reminds me of a good point - what will be more beneficial for those of us planning on taking 139B?
In 101B we did a fair amount of H atom stuff. Let's see something new; I vote for crystalline solids.
ReplyDeleteI'm curious about the time dependent Hamiltonian opperator and pertibation theory, but this might be covered in 139B. We should get to the three dimentional case sometime this quarter.
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